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Post Tue Oct 29, 2002 2:38 am

Tech Girl,
I am happy that things went well for you th

Tech Girl, <BR>I am happy that things went well for you this weekend. Those little blessings are something else, aren't they? <BR> <BR>I am doing okay, but I have a hard time sleeping these days. I went through this a few times since this mess started, sometimes living off of 3-5 hours of sleep a night. I'll just use my time to work on my book and my site....lol! <BR> <BR>Thanks for asking.
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Post Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:25 am

In my state the only way you can get Sole Legal custody is

In my state the only way you can get Sole Legal custody is if the other parent commits a grave act such as murder. Or at least that's what my old attorney told me. However the judge did warn my ex not to continue the harassment and threats. So who knows. <BR> <BR>I had a friend go with me to the exchanges this weekend and everything went fine. I still haven't heard back from the court on my request. <BR> <BR>Mother of Two, Did you have court yesterday? <BR> <BR>Evilanne, and My Fathers Daughter how are things going? <BR> <BR>peace and safety, <BR> <BR>~techgirl
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Post Tue Oct 29, 2002 8:47 am

Techgirl,

Glad to hear that the exchange went oka

Techgirl, <BR> <BR>Glad to hear that the exchange went okay this weekend. I totally understand the emotional strain that it mus put on you. I used to start getting anxious hours before the exchange and I needed a couple of hours after to relax. <BR> <BR>Court went well yesterday, both on and off the record. I have been having trouble posting on this thread so I started another discussion. I won't repeat it all here. <BR> <BR>Take care and stay safe. <BR> <BR>Mother of two
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Post Tue Oct 29, 2002 10:10 am

~TechGirl,
I am doing great....I feel like I'm slo

~TechGirl, <BR>I am doing great....I feel like I'm slowly regaining my life. With all that has happened, I know it will take some time but I see light at the end of the tunnel and I am very hopeful. It is amazing how much energy our stalkers drain from us. I am happy your exchanges went well and hope you hear something from the courts soon. The unknown and waiting for answers is sometimes the hardest part. <BR> <BR>I have been listening to motivational tapes the last few days and it has lifted my spirit and hope. I didn't realize it until just recently, but I achieved my New Year's resolution!!! I guess Black Eyed Peas on New Year's day does bring the right type of luck<IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)"> Anyone want the recipe?<IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)">? <BR> <BR>I am doing a lot of reflection and self examination. Now I am starting to set goals for my new life. <BR> <BR>Happy Trails to you all<IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR> <BR>evilanne <BR> <BR>p.s. The only other way I know of for getting Sole Custody is to get your soon to be ex to agree. I got Sole Custody by reducing child support by $100 per month.
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Post Thu Oct 31, 2002 10:39 am

Hope everyone has a very Happy Halloween!!!!

Still

Hope everyone has a very Happy Halloween!!!! <BR> <BR>Still no word from the court and it has been a week now since my request.... <BR> <BR>MOT, I read your new thread just after typing the message to you the other day. I'm so glad court went well!!! <BR> <BR>I am considering starting a new topic myself. This one has grown quite large! <BR> <BR>Evilanne it sounds like you are doing some healing! <IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/smile.gif"> That is awesome!!! <BR> <BR>MFD, I can totally relate to the lack of sleep!!! I have had times that I have lived on about 4 hours myself, but I have slept much better most nights since my move. Your in my thoughts, and I pray you find peaceful slumber soon! <BR> <BR>I probably won't be back to post until after the weekend, so ... I hope everyone has a safe and happy Halloween, and a weekend filled with fun and no undesired surprises! <BR> <BR>Peace, <BR> <BR>~techgirl
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Post Fri Nov 01, 2002 9:08 am

Techgirl,

You may recall that the GAL has let me o

Techgirl, <BR> <BR>You may recall that the GAL has let me off the hook about telephone contact and has suggested exchange of information via a notebook. Well, of course my husband is not making use of the notebook. At least he has actually sent it back with our daughter the last couple of times so that I don't have to keep buying new ones. He attended a counseling session with our daughter Wednesday afternoon (they were 35 minutes late so it only lasted 25 minutes, but that's a whole differenct subject). She asked him why he was not participating in the notebook idea, and he said he preferred the old method of communication. Of course he did, so he could verbally abuse me every chance he got. Sort of hard to do that when you have to put it in writing! Anyway, the counselor backed me up and supported the use of the notebook. <BR> <BR>The counselor also noted that she is started to detect possible coaching, this on the issue of being afraid at my apartment. The counselor said that my daughter's response to questions about that seemed contrived. She is going to explore it more with her at the next appointment since my husband won't be there (of course he couldn't wait in the other room and let them talk alone, he had to be there). This is a good step in the right direction. If she sees more of this she will inform the GAL, and that is another piece of evidence in our corner! <BR> <BR>Everyone have a good weekend. <BR> <BR>Take care and stay safe. <BR> <BR>Mother of two
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Post Mon Nov 04, 2002 10:04 am

~Techgirl....How did you get that smiley??? We had an abso

~Techgirl....How did you get that smiley??? We had an absolutly great Halloween, my goblin was still in jail. Today, unfortunately, the Judge let my goblin out on bond<IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/sad.gif" ALT=":("> I'm still stunned and very angry. I was not informed of the hearing until after it was done, I can only hope that he packs up his belongings and actually leaves the state. Back to sleeping with my mace & panic alarm<IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/sad.gif" ALT=":("> Only 2 weeks of peace...was starting to feel normal. According to the DA, he has to leave town until required for court appearances but the only person keeping track of him is his own attorney. Does this make sense to anyone?? I just keep reminding myself that God doesn't give you any more than you can handle. I will survive!!! <BR> <BR>Happy Trails<IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/happy.gif" ALT=":)"> <BR>evilanne
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Post Tue Nov 05, 2002 9:31 am

Evilanne,

So sorry to hear about your "goblin&

Evilanne, <BR> <BR>So sorry to hear about your "goblin" making bond. How long until the hearing? You said that the only person keeping track of him is his own attorney. Well, make sure that if you see him the police hear about it. I hope that doesn't happen though! <BR> <BR>Take care and stay safe. <BR> <BR>Mother of two
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Post Tue Nov 05, 2002 12:04 pm

Mother of Two, I have been requesting the written method of

Mother of Two, I have been requesting the written method of communication for quite some time, and my ex has as of yet to send me even one letter outlining anything. He too insists on phone contact, and refuses to reply to any letters that I have mailed him in regards to changes or conduct. I still haven't heard back from the standing master about changing the exchange spot!!!! and in just 4 days I will have to be meeting him again to swap the kids! <BR> <BR>Last week he was resorting to calling sometimes 3 times a day to talk to the kids. 7:30am, 3pm, and 8pm.... and in our order it states that he can talk to them once per day, and between the hours of 6pm-8pm. I didn't freak out and instead just ignored it, and he stopped. Now he hasn't called for 3 days. <BR> <BR>Evilanne, I am so sorry to hear that your peace was so short lived! I will continue to pray for your safety! Your right about not being given more than you can handle! Stay stong in that faith! <BR> <BR>Peace, <BR> <BR>~Techgirl
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Post Tue Nov 05, 2002 12:08 pm

oh yeah the smiley is \ clipart {smile}, minus the space

oh yeah the smiley is \ clipart {smile}, minus the spaces <IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/smile.gif"> <BR> <BR> <BR>peace and safety, <BR>~techgirl
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Post Tue Nov 05, 2002 12:53 pm

techgirl,

Well, whether my husband participates wi

techgirl, <BR> <BR>Well, whether my husband participates with the written communication or not, I am not going to get sucked in to talking on the phone with him again. He is trying, being so nice and all. But I know that is shrt lived, and if I were to let him back in and relax my guard, he would zing me with something. <BR> <BR>There is hope though. There may be another woman. There is a female friend of his, and although she is married I know that her marriage has been rocky the past couple of years. I suspected that they had a fling before my huband and I met, and now I think they may be resuming it, because she is over at my husband's apartment an awful lot, several nights a week. I really hope he becomes obsessed with her and moves on! <BR> <BR>Mother of two
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Post Tue Nov 05, 2002 12:54 pm

I have been meaning to ask you - what is a standing master

I have been meaning to ask you - what is a standing master and what are your options if you don't hear back or if he denies your request? <BR> <BR>Mother of two
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Post Wed Nov 06, 2002 4:52 am

MFD,

I am in a bind. I can't afford a new atto

MFD, <BR> <BR> I am in a bind. I can't afford a new attorney, my old one dropped me (due to her office receiving harrassment from my ex, and she is not willing to write a statement to that effect even though she has told me that was the primary reason for dropping me). My old attorney has told me that I can no longer afford her services, but that for a minimal fee she will continue to give me advice that I can use to represent myself. <BR> <BR> When I was in the process of moving and filled a notice of intent to move, I had my son's counselor testify to the aduse/neglect and she also gave recommendations which have now enabled me to have custodial of my children. I had several witnesses ready to testify as well, and we didn't have enough time to call my witnesses (the court expected us to fit 2 1/2 years worth of abuse and problems into 1 1/2 hours). The judge corrected my ex several times for testifying instead of asking questions. Things could have went so much better had my attorney been up to par on stalking legislation that is already in place with the Sate Family Court, but the Judge and standing Master didn't want to hear about the past, only about what "we" were going to do about communicating in the future and who was going to raise the kids and how. Every time my attorney mentioned anything about harrasment from my ex, the judge got upset, and told her to move on! It was so frustrating! I wanted to scream! My attorney tried to talk about the convictions and the judge told her that he didn't want to hear about it!!!! Seriously!!!! <BR>anyway... I could go on and on about what didn't go right, but all in all my kids and I are on the right track now. <BR> <BR>Thanks for asking <IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/smile.gif"> <BR> <BR>Peace and safety, <BR>~techgirl
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Post Wed Nov 06, 2002 9:53 am

I got zinged! Again! But I saw it coming, and I thought I w

I got zinged! Again! But I saw it coming, and I thought I was prepared, but I wasn't! I didn't have any tape left and wasn't able to get the call recorded. I knew he was going to call, I had parent teacher conferences yesterday. <BR> <BR>Once again I told him to put any info, questions, concerns in writting, and he refused! He said he was going to write me a letter explaining how he doesn't like the way I address him in my letters. I said please do. He talked about how he wants to co-parent. That is such BS! I told him that if he wants to co-parent then put things in writting like I have requested, and stop insisting on phone contact. I told him to put his words to action, if he wants to co-parent then respect my request to put things in writting, and stop calling to tell me that I am in the wrong for not setting up a parent teacher conference for him, that is his job, he knew that conferences were coming up, and he needs to be responsible enough to set up his own time seperately. He had some choice words to say after that..... and I had to end the call. I didn't let it bother me through out the rest of the evening, and like I said I did see it coming. I just wish I would have said no sorry can't talk right now, and left it at that. <BR> <BR>He is trying to get enough evidence that it is in some way my fault that we are unable to co-parent. I am going to eventually have to explain to the standing master or judge that it is extreemly hard (next to impossible)to co-parent with an individual that is disrespectful of my parental and personal rights, and puts his own self before the needs of his children. He can spend money on himself, but is against paying any sort of child support! I guess instead of trying to explain that to the court, I just need to have a professional witness explain it, that way it isn't coming from me directly or personally. But that would again take more money! <BR> <BR>I found out yesterday that my ex hasn't payed a dime for my son's counseling, and owe's them over $500. Yet again another thing that will be have to be brought to the attention of the court. <BR> <BR>The Standing Master is like a go between before a matter is taken to the Judge. In my case the Standing Master is a woman. I was told by the standing masters secretary that she would probably want to hear any reasoning that my ex may have against meeting at the Police station, and that she may request a meeting before reaching any decesion. <BR> <BR>When I called the court house this morning to make sure that they received my request, I was told that they had not received it in the standing master's office and was transfered to the clerk of court, and got no answer, and had to leave a message!!! The process hasn't even started and I have only a few days before we exchange again! <BR> <BR>well.... I best get back to work! I will check back in through out the day. <BR> <BR>oh MOT- I hope that your husband moves on as well!!! I don't think that my ex has the social skills to do the same ....but .... who knows. <BR> <BR>Peace, <BR>~techgirl
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Post Wed Nov 06, 2002 10:11 am

Tech Girl,
Do you have any counselors, witnesses, lawye

Tech Girl, <BR>Do you have any counselors, witnesses, lawyers, anyone that can attest to what you are going thru and will they be allowed to testify? Also, are your children old enough to dialogue with the court in camera (without you or your ex being present) to be able to convey the madness to the judge or the standing master? I can't imagine him getting away with all of this if you have a solid backing.
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Post Thu Nov 07, 2002 8:41 am

techgirl,

Sorry you got zinged. I know my husband

techgirl, <BR> <BR>Sorry you got zinged. I know my husband is working his way back to that. Our daughter has been sick the past couple of days, so I have been forced to communicate by phone with him to arrange exchanges and childcare and such. He is being SO nice. He thinks he is going to lull me back into chatting with him on the phone. Well, he has another thing coming, because I don't WANT to chat with him on the phone. She comes back to me today for a solid week (I can't wait!), and so there is no reason for telephone contact between us. I will get on the phone and tell him how her health is, but that's it. <BR> <BR>I had to meet him at the police station for the exchange yesterday. It went without incident, but I felt like I was handing my child over to satan and there wasn't anything I could do about it. I am so afraid for her! <BR> <BR>So how is it, representing yourself in court? I suppose with the way things are going I will eventually end up there myself, because I fully expect the legal hassles to go on for years, back into court at the drop of a hat. <BR> <BR>I am not sure if we have a standing master here in our system or not. I haven't come across that yet, anyway. <BR> <BR>Take care and stay safe, <BR>Mother of two
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Post Mon Nov 11, 2002 4:54 am

Do you gals have a domestic violence organization near you?

Do you gals have a domestic violence organization near you? I had no money to hire a lawyer when my son's dad tried to take custody from me and I found a place thru a lawyer referral service. As it turned out, they work with a domestic violence organization for women that refers their clients to this legal program. Though I didn't go thru the DV organization, they asked me if my situation was abusive. The violence was from my ex boyfriend/stalker, but since my son's dad also was abusive many moons ago AND he was in collusion with my stalker I was able to qualify. <BR> <BR>Maybe you guys can look in the blue pages of your phone book and find some legal aid center?
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Post Mon Nov 11, 2002 10:25 am

It looks like I won't have to be going to court in order

It looks like I won't have to be going to court in order to get the exchange location changed. I got a voice mail message from my ex on Saturday that said that he thought it would be a good idea to meet at the police station. I am so glad I wasn't home to take to call!!! He sounded somewhat pissed, and I have a feeling that someone in the legal system told him that it would be in his best interest to agree to meet the the police station, instead of going to court and being forced by the judge to do so! :-) Plus, I'm sure he has to realize by now that if we did go in front of the Judge, I am going to seek child support. If I don't hear word from him about medical insurance soon, I will be sending him another certified letter requesting him to pay half the monthly premium, and to also help out with School lunches and such. That is the least he can do to support our children, and I don't think that its asking to much! <BR><IMG SRC="http://stalkingvictims.com/discus/clipart/smile.gif"> <BR> <BR> MOT, it is nerve racking to represent yourself, and I don't recommend it to anyone that has the ability financially to have a good lawyer. Its to bad that those finances do run out so quickly, and end up turning into a huge debt. I will be paying my old attorney for years to come, and that definatly restricts me from being able to hire a new attorney. I was hoping to find one that would be willing to allow me to do computer work in exchange for representation, but I have been unable to find any such deal, but I'm still looking. <BR> <BR> I can totally relate to your agony of handing over your child to such an evil person, and I wish I could say that it gets easier, but that aspect of it hasn't improved for me. But I hope that by now exchanging at the police station, I will minimize the stress that I feel just before every exchange. <BR> <BR>well, I'd best get back to work..... <BR> <BR>peace and safety, <BR> <BR>~techgirl
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Post Mon Nov 11, 2002 12:55 pm

I am so happy for you! It must be an immense relief to hav

I am so happy for you! It must be an immense relief to have the exchange situation handled! You are probably right, he figured out, or had it pointed out to him, that he really didn't want to go back to court. I know that I still get anxious when it is time for an exchange (thankfully with our schedule the face-to-face exchanges don't happen all that often, at least not with things as they stand now), but I feel so much better knowing that it will be at a police station. He still tries to get in the verbal zings at times, but its not anywhere near as bad as it was meeting at his house! I've got a little recorder that I carry in my purse, just in case he threatens me, so I can get it on tape. <BR> <BR> <BR>Take care and stay safe, <BR>Mother of two
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Post Tue Nov 12, 2002 8:29 am

I tried to get an attorney through the DV center, however t

I tried to get an attorney through the DV center, however they told me that they were not accepting any further applicants that were dealing with anything other than physical abuse. Go figure, since my ex didn't slap me around I didn't qualify, not to mention the income stipulations, they told me I make to much money to qualify when I again applied 6 months later!!! I looked for a pro bono lawyer, and wasn't able to find any that weren't already working with the DV center, and time was of the essence. I ended up using all of my income tax return to hire one that I knew nothing about, and she ended up not knowing enough about DV and Stalking. Now I'm stuck paying her, and in doing so I can't afford another attorney to represent me should I need to go back to court. So I guess what I am saying is yes, I have tried that route and reached a big brick wall! <BR> <BR> When you haven't been physicaly abused it just doesn't seem fair that they would discount emotional trama. HE HELD A GUN TO MY HEAD TWICE!!!!!!! but didn't shoot, or smake me. He threatened suicide, and my little girl was watching! He Stalked me for 3 years and counting (now he's a Felon), yet that isn't enough to qualify for assistance with an attorney. But I guess this isn't a fair world we live in, and we have to make the best of the resources we do have. I thank God for the Order of Protection, and the wonderful crime victim advocates that helped me through really tough times. I pray that my ex's PO keeps close tabs on him. And most importantly I pray that my children and I are kept safe from any harm. <BR> <BR>Peace and safety to you and your loved ones, <BR> <BR>~techgirl
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Post Tue Nov 12, 2002 9:16 am

techgirl,

Well, so far it seems like your ex's

techgirl, <BR> <BR>Well, so far it seems like your ex's PO is on top of things. I would bet that he agreed to the police station for exchanges because of pressure from her. <BR> <BR>It doesn't seem fair that the system is so unresponsive to emotional abuse. There is a real lack of understanding of the way that abuse works, in my opinion. The average joe does not understand that abuse is not about violence, but about control. And if an abuser can control you by scaring you silly, they don't have to resort to violence. And for that matter, the controlling behavior, through fear or isolation, or economic pressure always comes first before the fist. <BR> <BR>The other thing that really gets me is that no one seems to see the link between abusive spouses and child abusers. If a man (I say man, but there are female abusers, too) is abusive to his wife, there isn't much doubt in my mind that he will be abusive to his children in one way or another. Simply making them witness the abuse of their mother is abusive in its own right. But the man that will control and intimidate his wife will also control and intimidate his children. <BR> <BR>Along the lines of control, I have come to a place of peace about telephone visits. So you know that I have already put my foot down about talking to my husband at all, let alone during telephone visits. Well, I have also decided I am not going to let him use these telephone visits to insert him presence in my household anymore. They are scheduled during a half-hour period every evening. That is it. If he calls during that period, and she wants to talk, fine. If she doesn't want to talk, there will be no calling back, unless she wants to, because that calling back game extends the whole mess out until late at night or even into the morning. I am just not going to put that pressure on her anymore, nor am I going to do it to myself. And I hope that he does the same when she is at his house. I'll call at the appointed time, and if she wants to talk to me great. If not, I'll try again the next night. He is not going to like it, because it eliminates yet another way that he has tried to push himself into my life. If she doesn't want to talk when he calls, or if he doesn't get what he considers to be a long enough conversation (come on creep, she's three, she doesn't have a novel to talk about every night), then he keeps calling back and calling back until she gives him what he wants. It goes on until ten some nights, and then if she still doesn't want to talk (of course by then she's tired), it goes into the next morning. I am just not going to do it anymore. He really needs to get a life. I don't intrude upon his time like that. I call once, and that's it. But he makes her call back, and call back, again until he thinks that she has talked long enough. Its stupid. <BR> <BR>I know I made him really mad last night. He has started calling later and later every night, after the scheduled time. Last night I waited almost half and hour after the scheduled time, and when he still hadn't called, I asked my daughter if she wanted to call her daddy. She said no, so I unplugged the phone. He called this morning and left an angry message on the answering machine, of course, claiming that he had tried to call several times last night. I am sure he did, but he has no business calling my house after nine anyway. Oh well. I am sure I'll pay for it this weekend when she is over at his place, but this whole mess has to stop. I do not want him in my life for hours every day, and that is exactly what he is trying to do. No more. <BR> <BR>As for lawyers, at least for now my parents are helping me. Thank goodness, because I don't think that I could navigate this alone, at least not the first time through. If we end up going back to court again and again I could see myself going it alone, because I couldn't ask my parents to keep paying for it all, but at least by then I will have been through the system once and have some idea what to expect. <BR> <BR>Well, thanks for listening to me whine and complain. Take care and stay safe. <BR> <BR>Mother of two
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Post Tue Nov 19, 2002 9:48 am

techgirl,

You haven't posted in awhile. Is ev

techgirl, <BR> <BR>You haven't posted in awhile. Is everything okay? <BR> <BR>I am sorry to report that I am fairly certain that my place of employment has been discovered by my husband. I came out to the car on Friday afternoon and there was a sticky white substance all over the driver's side door, mainly on the handle. I think, thankfully, that it was Elmer's glue, but I am sure you can imagine what it was meant to look like! Yuck! Anyway, I suppose a stranger could have done this as a prank, but somehow I doubt it. <BR> <BR>Take care and stay safe, <BR>Mother of two
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Post Mon Jan 20, 2003 10:49 am

update on techgirl

its been a year since my ex was found guilty and given a 3 yr deferred Felony sentence for violating the Order of Protection. I left him in 99, and he was convicted of the felony in January of 2002.

Update: November 2003, the ex got drunk, and called my home at 3am. I immediately reported the violation. He was set to go to trial on the violation in December2002, however he had the trial postponed. On New Years Eve, he was arrested for a DUI. He made bail before his PO even got wind of the arrest. I was really freaked out when I found out that he was headed in this direction when he was pulled over. He had not yet left his county, but none the less was on the outskirts. I immediately went into protection mode, and was ready to take flight, but I have since calmed down. I have done all I can do to keep him from invading my peace, and I will continue to document and report every violation. I am a Law abiding citizen, and it is not my job to control his behavior. The judge told him during his felony sentencing that he has got to get a grip on his drinking, yet he continues to drink. Anyone care to wager a bet as to the outcome of his upcoming trial? I have been told that the prisons and jails are full and that is why he was released so quickly (to make room), but that he will likely end up getting some time in the detention center ( a work release program), or 90 days house arrest. Either way he will still be allowed to maintain a job, so that he can continue to keep his home, and continue to maintain visitation with his children. If there weren't children involved, would the system still go easy on him? If he was a complete stranger, and doing the things that he is, would the judicial system still allow him to have his freedom? I doubt it! but since he is a father, he magically has some sort of different rights. What about my rights!? What about my children's rights? They love their father, but what kind of example is he setting for them? What kind of example is the court system setting for my children :?: I am very thankful that they caught him on New Years Eve, but how long will it be allowed to continue?

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Post Mon Jan 20, 2003 11:08 pm

(((((Techgir))))) You are so right in all that you posted...they will do anything to keep these guys out of jail and our ex's will never learn. It is the children that suffer :( I know it is so frustrating but we are strong and we will make it through each obstacle as it arises!! Hang in there :wink: eventually it has got to get better!!!
Happy Trails :)
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Post Tue Feb 04, 2003 9:28 am

It got better the day I left :) and your right it will continue to! Thanks EvilAnne!!!! Everyone needs to hear the reassurance :-)

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